The Dreaded 1130 Code 2007 2,8 Voyager

[ontheroad]

Hi all,

         as anyone ever found out the cure for the dreaded cutout and the 1130 code when kick down throttle is used on the voyager 2,8 2007 auto,roll to the side turn off ignition and then it will start, will drive all day but when you use heavy throttle the dreaded cut comes in, any info would be appreciated, i have done all the test and changed most of the sensors and pressure valves and checked for air in diesel lines , all seals changed on diesel filter housing, this is the one with the primer up front

cheers keith

[ontheroad]

Update to 1130 code

 

I have found the problem which was causing my car to cut out when heavy on the foot, In my case it was the IPM (fusebox) ECU that is on the front, I tried cleaning all contacts aprox 49 but in the end it turned out that this unit that was faulty, I had a IPM unit in the garage with the ECU, after changing the IPM ECU took for test drive and was all okay, took for another test drive today aprox 60 mls with out a problem, so in my case it was the ECU on the front of the IPM (fusebox), i am not saying that this is the problem for all 1130 codes but in my case it was, just a signal drop for less than a second to the HP pump regulator which was enough to drop rail pressure,which the main ECU/PCM picks up on and cuts injector live feeds resulting in engine cut, that's why when you turn off ignition the main ECU resets and the cycle starts all over again, its worth checking that all terminals are clean on the IPM ECU unit, when removing pull it straight out, don't wobble from side to side 49 pins and make sure you have not bent any before putting back,  hope this helps

Edited April 14, 2019 by ontheroad

[gordy]

Cutting out completely and not just to limp mode is usually caused by boost pressure and the sensor. Check sensor first as it can get severely gummed up. Other place to look is turbo actuator for freeness and that it actually works. 

[ontheroad]

Cheers Gordy

                     thanks for your input and quick reply

i have had the pressure sensor off and cleaned with carb cleaner it was full of crud, i also done a 5v check and ground check the sensor output voltage increases with engine speed, but have not check the turbo, but this will be my next check, hopefully a cure with your help will keep you posted of the out come, once again thanks for your suggestions and hopefully back on the road

cheers keith

[legonsuk]

I have the 2.5 had the same problem as you found out it was the fuel filter took the old one out didn't look that bad but found like this slimy snotty clear stuff in the filter pop new one in running like a dream now hope this might help m8.

[ontheroad]

cheers Legonsuk

                              the 2.5 has the filter at the back next to the tank underside and uses  a paper element type filter the later 2.8 use a screw on filter at the front on the engine, this is all new with filter housing so that has been eliminated as cause, but thanks for your reply, glad you got yours solved , i'm just waiting for my turn to be lucky

cheers keith

Edited March 17, 2019 by ontheroad

[ontheroad]

Hi Gordy.

              check out turbo today and actuator all fine, what a pig of a job, but i can now say its not turbo issues, done all the usual stuff with no answer to cause, to be honest i'm getting a bit feed up with it now, parts replaced are boost sensor fuel pressure sensor + the fuel rail pressure on the end, pump regulator valve on pump        3 star bolts new filter and housing, had fuse box out and checked all connection and wiring plugs, check all connections on ECU, checked wiring for chuffed or broken wires, i'm done for, never again, it will be something silly, its all to common on these motors, but the answer i don't know, will have another look tomorrow, but it going to go now to unreliable 

[soupstone]

Take the filter out again and double check there's not 2 o-rings in there. 
Long shot, but worth a go, and something that has been reported before. 

[ontheroad]

Hi Soupstone,

                         thanks for your reply, i checked that before fitting the new housing, this is really getting to me now,  never had so much grief with a car, Chrysler agents are pretty poo when it comes to diagnosis of problem, and want loads of money 

[karmannski]

Hi Soupstone,

                         thanks for your reply, i checked that before fitting the new housing, this is really getting to me now,  never had so much grief with a car, Chrysler agents are pretty poo when it comes to diagnosis of problem, and want loads of money 

 

If you changed and tested everythnig? 

- Injectors Test. 

- High Pressure Valve

- MAP Sensor (In inlet) 

- Fuel Filter 

- Turbo Actuator

- Cleaned EGR and Inlet

 

 

Try to swap or at least clean Mass Air Flow Meter, if you know someone near who owns same car. 

 

Don't Give up!

 

If you will need a help pop in to Peterborough. 

[ontheroad]

cheers Kamannski.

                             I have changed Mass with new one, i am trying not to give up, i will be double checking again today (Friday),i will be starting from the beginning,going to test all wiring sensor for 5v and earth + signal volts, have got myself together again,  thanks for the offer of help much appreciated, i don't like being defeated because i know its something i'm missing, i will keep you informed of outcome, once again thanks, you might get a visit Lol

[Andrewgrale]

Is there any chance that your problem could be caused by a throttle pedal potentiometer?? At full press, some kind of open circuit?

[ontheroad]

Hi Andrewgate.

                         I thought of that. so got 1 from breakers,it wasn't that, still the same, replaced with rebuilt injectors, not that either, i will get there in the end, i am trying to eliminate things one at a time,so that when i find it i can post for others with the same problem and hopefully help them out, its got into my head to find the culprit that is responsible. 

[BumBle02]

Hi Just a thought have you tried disconnecting the battery for about 15 minutes or so to reset the ecu when you do it put lights on so it drains all the power out. Jeff

Edited April 8, 2019 by BumBle02

[ontheroad]

thanks Jeff,

                   I have had the bat off for a day or two whilst checking all wiring, but when reconnected the battery again, i done the key dance and the 1130 code was still in the ecu,this was before i started it, cant seem to clear it

[BumBle02]

Hi Yes mine does that but when I put my code reader on it comes up clear put the code is in the key dance for quite a while then after some time it  goes do not worry get a code reader I use the Fox NT301 in works well on the Chrysler got it from Ebay good luck. Jeff

[ontheroad]

Hi Jeff

            thanks m8, i have a code reader, it comes up saying no codes present , but do key dance and they are there, strange,doing me head inn

regards keith

ps what dose the ecu on the front of the fusebox control  any idea?

[brit644]

Had to get the AA out, they have a reader that connects wireless to their van, everything came up, he cleared codes that I couldnt, they stayed cleared [going to post on it today as its about p1685]

[ontheroad]

Hi All with 1130 cut out 

 

 this what i have established , it is not a turbo problem, it is not a sensor problem, the diesel side was a concern because the 1130 code points to that, but i have found that the 1130 code is sending me down the wrong path,

there was a diesel rail pressure problem, but what was causing it was difficult to find, i checked and double checked and all the test that i have done were correct,

 

I have now found the cause of the problem to my voyager, i have tested the car today and took through the revs and into the red 4k plus with no cut out, took it up to 60 then used kick down several times, it never missed a beat, will be testing again tomorrow and if all okay, i will reveal what was causing the problem on my 2,8 voyager,

i am almost positive that i have found the problem tomorrow will tell

[QinteQ]

Hi All with 1130 cut out 

 

 this what i have established , it is not a turbo problem, it is not a sensor problem, the diesel side was a concern because the 1130 code points to that, but i have found that the 1130 code is sending me down the wrong path,

there was a diesel rail pressure problem, but what was causing it was difficult to find, i checked and double checked and all the test that i have done were correct,

 

I have now found the cause of the problem to my voyager, i have tested the car today and took through the revs and into the red 4k plus with no cut out, took it up to 60 then used kick down several times, it never missed a beat, will be testing again tomorrow and if all okay, i will reveal what was causing the problem on my 2,8 voyager,

i am almost positive that i have found the problem tomorrow will tell

If you are within striking distance of Teesside I'll do 2 reads+clears M8.

 

The fusebox as you call it controls nothing, but yet everything. There are 4 alpha [particularly U] codes all run through wires which pass through the often verdegree'd, corroded, cancer-wired, 3 pin-layerd "fusebox". Your 07 should not be 'minging'.

 

- best of luck

- now back to the movie.

[ontheroad]

Hi QinteQ,

                  I'm south London, but thanks for the offer , I use the word fuse box because not everybody knows what a IPM stands for and most people know what a fuse box is, I removed the IPM and broke it down and checked and cleaned all contacts points but this was not the problem. I was sure that it was a signal problem to or from the ECU/PCM modules, after another day of searching and another cup of tea. bingo the problem to my voyager was staring me in the face, i have now cleared all codes, will give it another thrash tomorrow, i will update after testing

Edited April 14, 2019 by ontheroad

[QinteQ]

Hi QinteQ,

                  I'm south London, but thanks for the offer , I use the word fuse box because not everybody knows what a IPM stands for and most people know what a fuse box is, I removed the IPM and broke it down and checked and cleaned all contacts points but this was not the problem. I was sure that it was a signal problem to or from the ECU/PCM modules, after another day of searching and another cup of tea. bingo the problem to my voyager was staring me in the face, i have now cleared all codes, will give it another thrash tomorrow, i will update after testing

 

Good, yes most don't know what's in the IPM. Here's a post of mine from four or so years ago, particularly the way the FCM interactions twixt the IPM + PCi data BUS. There are other posts somewhere I made where the pcb-horizontal layers and vertical pins [passing through some but not all layers] are in 'exploded' view.

 

Best of luck.

[QinteQ]

Update to 1130 code

 

I have found the problem which was causing my car to cut out when heavy on the foot, In my case it was the IPM (fusebox) ECU that is on the front, I tried cleaning all contacts aprox 49 but in the end it turned out that this unit that was faulty, I had a IPM unit in the garage with the ECU, after changing the IPM ECU took for test drive and was all okay, took for another test drive today aprox 60 mls with out a problem, so in my case it was the ECU on the front of the IPM (fusebox), i am not saying that this is the problem for all 1130 codes but in my case it was, just a signal drop for less than a second to the HP pump regulator which was enough to drop rail pressure,which the main ECU/PCM picks up on and cuts injector live feeds resulting in engine cut, that's why when you turn off ignition the main ECU resets and the cycle starts all over again, its worth checking that all terminals are clean on the IPM ECU unit, when removing pull it straight out, don't wobble from side to side 49 pins and make sure you have not bent any before putting back,  hope this helps

 

Good man, glad you (1) chased it down (2) sorted it and (3) let other users know your findings.

[ontheroad]

cheers QinteQ

  when i was trying to find any info on the IPM, nothing came up in the search on the forum,i wished that i had found your wright up on it earlier, when stripping dowm my IPM  i removed the ECU but didn't give it a thought, but i knew i was missing something, but got there in the end ,only thing is i spent money thinking it was to do with fuel problem, the 1130 code sent me in the wrong direction, although it was a fuel problem but indirectly from another source ie broken signal, but the strange thing is it drove okay under normal throttle and you could also pick up speed providing you never floored it Lol   cheers again QinteQ for your support

keith

[bignev]

Excellent stuff mate well sorted!

More importantly as QinteQ says thanks for coming back with a resolution!

 

If only I could have been so successful with my old 2002 3.3 TCM to PCM signal fault. I did try second hand units at least.

[ontheroad]

cheers Bignev,

   it took me a long time,but i wasn't giving in although i did say i was,,you know whats it like you get a bee in your bonnet and all hell breaks loose, you go at it like a maniac Lol