Delta Active Suspension

[Dorian]

Hi

 

My name is Dorian im from Poland. My First car wos fiat bravo nad now i have lancia/chrysler delta 1.8(1,75) turbo. In this car i have Active suspension nad i wont to change it for stock + eibach spring nad get lowered 30/40 and my question is does enybody make same change like i wonna do? Sorry 4 my language i know its bot Perfect ;-)

This is my delta

http://i66.tinypic.com/54t4w6.jpg

[MikeyRules]

Hi Dorian, welcome to the club!  Your Delta looks great in black!!

 

You are very lucky to get the 1750tbi engine in a Delta! It's only available here in the UK in Alfa Romeo. I had a 159ti Sportwagon with the same engine and it was fabulous giving near V6 power!

 

In answer to your question I'm not sure if any of the members here have active suspension? Maybe that was a mainland Europe option only too?

[Dorian]

I search person who make this change like i wonna do in 3 forum ;-) nobody do it. So i will be A first person in world ;-) srsly in UK delta dont have 1.75? In automatic transmision?

[MikeyRules]

I search person who make this change like i wonna do in 3 forum ;-) nobody do it. So i will be A first person in world ;-) srsly in UK delta dont have 1.75? In automatic transmision?

No we only got the 1.4 Multiair, 1.6jtdm and the 2.0jtdm. Spec wise we got S, SE, SR, Momo and Limited.

[Dorian]

The best choice is 1.8tbi produced in 2009 you get 330 mm brembo breakes in stock! 

Check how it accelerate 110-180 10 sec.

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TkkOsk55vUg

Edited February 1, 2018 by Dorian

[Nello]

Welcome Dorian - I did not even realise Active Suspension was an option on the Delta?

[Dorian]

Witch 1.8 turbo wos in stock. On automatic transmision (only with this engine, no manual!) You have button "sport" that give you faster change of gear, harder susp. In my first car (fiat bravo) i hade A stock susp. + eibach 30/40 and this car wos perfect for stering 4 me. Now in lancia i dont trust this car in fast corners... Do decision is simple- Life is to short to have Active susp. CHANGE! :-)

Edited February 2, 2018 by Dorian

[Nello]

Dorian - there is a user on here 'Dido' who has fitted Eibach lowered springs - see this thread http://www.chryslerforum.co.uk/topic/1264-front-drivers-side-spring/   

 

He will not have had Active Suspension though so not sure what the effect would be with the lowered spring.

[Dorian]

thx but i must replace active absorbers and fit stock absorbers+ eibach. With active absorber you have device whitch control 4 absorbers. Its not that simple to just replace. You must find a clue how to erase a error of active suspension from daschbord My head is full of ideas but only one can be god. Switch off absrober device than make a proxi and problem should be gone. But i dont know that 4 surre So wish me luck

[Rossocorsa]

I have no experience of them but it was said that the delta handles and rides much better on the active dampers, this could be a retrograde step unless the current dampers are faulty.

[Dorian]

I have no experience of them but it was said that the delta handles and rides much better on the active dampers, this could be a retrograde step unless the current dampers are faulty.

do you drive delta on active susp? with 250 hp in fast corners? Do you drive delta on stock susp? Do you drive delta on stock susp + eibach 30/40 lowered?

 

back to the http://i64.tinypic.com/10qjq5f.jpg

 

3 sensors is using: 2 front L/R and rear only 1 but the ECU is the brain of this all so lets see what i can do again

 

http://i65.tinypic.com/2nqqpea.jpg 

 

stay tuned

Edited February 3, 2018 by Dorian

[Rossocorsa]

I'm on standard suspension which is ok but not the best, the damping on standard set up seems the biggest failing.

[Nello]

Agreed Alan - many a B - C segment Fiat model over the last 20 years or so have suffered from the same issue. Our old Brava and Stilo were the safe with a stiff setup. 

Edited February 3, 2018 by Nello

[Rossocorsa]

It's a symptom of under specifying the damper size then having to make it too stiff in one direction to make up for it. Often been tempted to change to bilstein dampers but their catalogue is so confusing I've never being confident enough that is get the right fit.

[Dido]

Hi Dorian and welcome to the club.

I fitted ebach sports springs as a quick fix for a damaged spring coil. It only lowered the car 30 mm, but obviously did not combine that with changing the suspension.

The lowered ride is a little bit more stable in fast corners, but can be a drawback in speed humps and snow especially if you need to fit snow chains...

 

Keep us updated with your project...

[Lucky]

I have the RSS system, and it's not ideal. I fitted Eibach springs to the RSS dampers, that was a big improvement. If you disconnect the RSS dampers you get error messages, as you know. I had to change back to the original springs for MOT, and it's a huge difference. My car is only used for a few km in the summertime so I don't have experience over many km, but it worked great for 1 season at least. 

[Dorian]

Done! :-)

http://i63.tinypic.com/b533o0.jpg

[MikeyRules]

What's it like to drive then? Looks nice and low!

[Dorian]

Now in fast corners body dont move ? susp. Is harder but not too much. I can still use A "sport button" on gear box ?

[Lucky]

Could you please tell us what you have done? I'm looking into the same, as I feel my Delta dives too much under braking. 

 

I've been thinking that the sensors in the electronic dampers have a specified resistance (Ohm), maybe it's possible to trick the system by giving them a certain resistance by soldering in a resistor? 

[Lucky]

Eibach is making Pro-Tronic, they trick the car so you don't get an error message when the electronic shock absorbers are replaced with ordinary shocks. They make them for Alfa MiTo, which I believe use Marelli suspension. But Eibach don't list them for Lancia Delta, and can't guarantee that they will work. Anyone familiar with the MiTo suspension? 

 

http://www.eibachshop.co.uk/eibach-protronic-electronic-suspension-module-am65100080122_p31222341.htm#.W2Fo5dIzaUk

[MikeyRules]

I wasn't aware that Any Mito had electronic dampers to be honest, and we've had a few!? (155bhp Veloce, 1.6jtdm Distinctive & 1.4ma)

[Dorian]

Hi

 

Sorry for loooooooooong time to answer. If you wont to go lowered on active susp. Just replace springs nad thats all. Dont touch anything on cpu. Replace spring and njoy

 

http://i68.tinypic.com/2quhh5k.jpg

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Edited January 8, 2019 by Dorian

[MikeyRules]

Wow that looks great in black!! 

[kapitano]

Hi Dorian, i have the same car as you. I aloso want to lower my car. What Eibach springs did you use? Thanks!