Fiona Posted June 8, 2017 Report Share Posted June 8, 2017 Hi I am on my second Grand voyager. My first was a Y reg 2.5CRD. It went after failing the MOT but 16 years, 250,000 miles and just needed a new clutch, turbo (had a runaway with loads of smoke), clockspring and a wheel bearing. Not bad really. The faults at the end filled an A4 page but it was so good I bought a 2004 2.5 CRD. The only time I have ever bought the same as the last car I had. This one is a mere youngster with only £110K on the clock. I have just replaced the bumper after an altercation with a small deer on the motorway but I need help as the new bumper has pop up jets. I have added the relay and fuse but nothing so far. I have put 12v on the pin 87 and they work. Do I ned to re=program the ECU? In case you ahvent guessed I am a rare beast, I am an electronic engineer who likes getting her hands dirty. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikebh8 Posted June 8, 2017 Report Share Posted June 8, 2017 Hi, a bit confused, the pop up jets are "energised" by the pressure of the water and do not need additional power.I'll check tommorow on mine as it comes with the option and I'll let you know for sure.I remember taking the bumper off when I replaced the engine but not clear on what exactly is behind it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikebh8 Posted June 9, 2017 Report Share Posted June 9, 2017 Hi again, it just came in my mind, the pop up jets will only work when the lights are on.Try that, I still have to look on mine but if I remember well, there is a second motor at the bottom of the washer liquid tank, if yours didn't come as standard with the headlights washers it might be that the bottle doesn't have the second one ( or third as I can tell from the picture attached). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bignev Posted June 9, 2017 Report Share Posted June 9, 2017 Welcome Fiona! I think Mikes right in that the front / rear washer is the same motor but reverses to change which screen it washes. I know that as when I tested mine for no water at the rear screen I swapped the hoses over. And the other is for the headlights which only work with the lights on. I wasn't sure what makes them pop up though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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