Front Handbrake Cable Problem...

[Clint221]

Hi, I am having problems sourcing the front handbrake cable which attaches to the handbrake lever itself. I ordered on via the main dealer but it is way too short and they say it's the one listed for the car.

 

Anyone know where I would get one or have a similar problem?

 

Thanks.

[Clint221]

Thanks... it doesn't show me what the rear hook on the clockspring is attached to though, as mine isn't attached or hooked onto anything atm.

[gordy]

Front one from handbrake to first junction below front passenger seat is short right enough.  

[QinteQ]

The real question on Voyager DIH brakes is why a new cable, its almost never ever cable unless the cable is literally snapped and I've never known one snap they use a huge internal clock spring to provide and mitigate tension which is why if applied by a big man with two hands on it you can not over tension.

[Clint221]

I bought the car with the cable already removed, not sure of the reason tbh.... The cable I got through the main dealer with the cars chassis number is too short to reach where it has to go, I've reordered another one in case this was one was sent in error.

 

Is there a central cable between the first cable and both rears?

Edited March 2, 2017 by Clint221

[gordy]

There's a front cable from Handbrake to fulcrum. Short cable from fulcrum to right side, connected to another cable to rear drum. From fulcrum there's only one cable to left side drum.

 

Brake cable RH ADA104609 Blue print 108 83 0100

Brake cable LH ADA 104608 Blue print 108 83 0090

 

Intermediate cable Quinton Hazel BC3631 (4683 496AB)

       ditto                Motorworld       EAN 5016593853980

 

LH Cable     1692mm FKB 3178

RH Cable     1291mm FKB 3507

Intermediate 1381mm FKB2469

Edited March 2, 2017 by gordy

[Clint221]

The cable I need is from the handbrake itself to the link joining both left and right rears. The inner cable on the one I have at present is about 1900mm but apparently both inner and outer are too short by about 50mm.

[gordy]

Front cable below.

AWD Voyager is 4683 285AD

FWD Voyager is 4721 420AB.

[Clint221]

I found out the reason for the wrong cable..... the cable for the Stow and Go Grand Voyager -2006 (04721246AC) is about 700mm longer than the normal seated version.

 

Hope this help clear up any further confusion

[bignev]

It certainly does.

 

So another main dealer wrong - I presume they went from your reg, not just "oh ok a grand voyager"!!!!

[QinteQ]

I've made dozens of posts on this:

 

"Put you REG in here"

 

Hardly ever works correctly. You were born with a VIN number anyone can trace the exact precise build to them minute. REG numbers can be and are changed in any country in the world, if they used the REG to interrogate the VIN that would do but that takes time and they could have asked for the VIN in the 1st place.

 

Most useless Voyager dBase's don't even know about stow 'n go and many don't recognise pre-2008, in my view these 'hands off, no humans' dBASE are pretty inaccurate and put you at risk as Nev says!

[Clint221]

I've also found the possible reason for the cable failure to start with.... the rear mechanisms were seized solid, so some was definitely over compensating with excess force.

[Clint221]

Would anyone have access to a diagram or photograph showing where the clockspring clutch actual spring attaches in the handbrake mechanism.. the hooked end of the spring isn't attached anywhere at the moment.

[QinteQ]

Would anyone have access to a diagram or photograph showing where the clockspring clutch actual spring attaches in the handbrake mechanism.. the hooked end of the spring isn't attached anywhere at the moment.

My original posts on'clockspring' authored by Leedsman and the 'top hat' drum and parking brake by myself are on here somewhere - I'll find them and repost them here .... later today.

[QinteQ]

Handbrick - read this of many threads, other threads here.

 

Clockspring pics see below.

 

Chrysler Workshop Manuals for expert repair & diagrams are here - Take your pick, you will need the RG for a CRD here.

 

 

http://www.chryslerforum.com/forum/attachments/chrysler-voyager-town-country-21/509d1402662039-my-struggles-gv-handbrake-mot-handbrake-003.jpg

 

 

 http://www.chryslerforum.com/forum/attachments/chrysler-voyager-town-country-21/508d1402661929-my-struggles-gv-handbrake-mot-handbrake-001.jpg

[Clint221]

Sorted... cheers.

[soupstone]

Clint, what dealer did you get it from and did you have to pick it up? How much was it direct from Chrysler?

Not been able to talk to a parts department yet, found a company that can supply one, but it's £120 delivered. Felt that was a bit steep, but if that's what it costs, I'll have no choice. 

 

 

[Clint221]

I got it through a main dealer here in the N.I and from memory it was only about £70.

[Clint221]

That number I posted last was the genuine Chrysler part number.

[Ben2802]

Got the same issue with my cables as well, the cable is still there though although there's no barrel to attach it back to the fulcrum. I assume that it was broken off because the rear shoes were non existent and the moving price of metal that moved the shoes is completely seized at the minute. I have noticed that on the pictures above that there's some kind of tensioner before it disappears into the floor. Not got one of them and looks like here never had been. I hope the people that signed off the design of the shoes got sacked. Both sides are one big lump of rusty parts. Looks like it hasn't been serviced since it left the factory.

[mikebh8]

Handbrick - read this of many threads, other threads here.

 

Clockspring pics see below.

 

Chrysler Workshop Manuals for expert repair & diagrams are here - Take your pick, you will need the RG for a CRD here.

 

 

http://www.chryslerforum.com/forum/attachments/chrysler-voyager-town-country-21/509d1402662039-my-struggles-gv-handbrake-mot-handbrake-003.jpg

 

 

 http://www.chryslerforum.com/forum/attachments/chrysler-voyager-town-country-21/508d1402661929-my-struggles-gv-handbrake-mot-handbrake-001.jpg

Hi, it finally came the time to work on my handbrake..in the picture with the cable adjuster, is that a standard fitted, mine doesn't have one?

Thank you.

[QinteQ]

Mike no idea, anything I post refers to my GV year etc. Apart from the obvious handbrick test I always advocate the small parts are replaced, the adjustment for the clockspring is engine on stamp on footbrick and 6 hard yanks will re-tension the clutch. What year is yours ?

[mikebh8]

It is 2004 2.5 crd manual.

I tried the sequence to recalibrate the clutch with no luck, it seems even worse.

But the adjuster in the picture I like, where the hamdbrake cable with the two that go to the wheels is there any bolts nuts that can be tighten (I didn't have time today as I had to go to work) but tonight or tomorrow morning I'll have a look.

 

Thank you.

[QinteQ]

By 6 hard yanks I mean hard very hard. There's is no adjustment just pulling the clutch, the footbrake keeps the tension on while the cables are realigned. The handbrick is an absolute pig to get right, one forum member did a 'blue peter' repair where he mounted an 8" scaffee pole over the end of the handbrake handle to get the required pull.

[mikebh8]

Ok, thanks. I'll give it another go tomorrow morning.