Hi Slowly sorting out my problems ..... Is there a web reference for the standard factory fitted sat nag. I spoke to Chrysler towers help line on friday, and the helpful comment was ''''speak to your dealer'''' Interesting reposte .... I await your guiding answers through the conversion of post codes for holiday into lat / long co-ordinates. Quite a performance - I may even resurrect my Garmin and use that if all else fails. Having to type in 16 characters, two decimal points and a (-) symbol because I am on the wrong side of the Greenwich meridian is far more complicated that postcode & house number. What a p@@@ in the @@@e. Regards