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Fuel Pressure Disappears.. Bad Or Non Starting... Again
RichardM replied to RichardM's question in Voyager 4th Generation (2001-2007)
Injectors spot on - leak test done. Pressure relief valve replaced with no effect. (Bosch) Doesn't cut out or stutter when started - goes like the proverbial bomb. ..... has behaved itself these past few days, have a tin of quick start in the van (hate using it but my job takes me to some very very remote areas. Have ordered a pajero fuel filter housing (has a primer on top!) .. will see how that works (it's £26.00 as opposed to £189 ish for the Mopar original) -
Fuel Pressure Disappears.. Bad Or Non Starting... Again
RichardM replied to RichardM's question in Voyager 4th Generation (2001-2007)
There is no primer pump on the old girl now; replaced the filter housing with a BMW in line about 9 months ago. Will check the NRV but doubt it; there is pressure in the rail but not enough. The bleed off / overpressure valve on the rail was replaced 10 months ago but may be worth replacing again; pressure is dropping off in the rail; spill test was done at same time (9 months ago) and injectors appeared spot on.. no doubt the brothers Judd (my local garage) will resolve it eventually but I don't half miss the old girl (a ton of tools, cable and junk and still loads of room!) -
Was going to start with "Hi guys" but not sure if that's politically correct these days so Hi ya'll (Americal - Correct ???) Anyway after many months of no problems I had to call the recovery truck yesterday, thought the old problem of air in fuel had reared it's ugly head again despite the new and improved BMW fuel filter .. but no ... a new and challenging fault .. #1130.... My local garage put the diagnostics on and whilst running the fuel pressure starts at 26000 and runs up to 32000 (PCals or something) but as soon as you switch off it drops down to 400 (read during crank over) any ideas .. fuel pump, sensor, cpu ???? Help and advice required please. Cheers Richard
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Just reversed into my fence - lost my rear view mirror a couple of months ago - it fell off due to the heat. Anyway wasn't paying attention and managed to damage the rear bumper, anyone breaking ?? anyone breaking a black one ???? (1997 Grand Voyager CD Stow & Go (Pearl Black) always live in hope ! Richard
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Just reversed into my fence - lost my rear view mirror a couple of months ago - it fell off due to the heat. Anyway wasn't paying attention and managed to damage the rear bumper, anyone breaking ?? anyone breaking a black one ???? (1997 Grand Voyager CD Stow & Go (Pearl Black) always live in hope ! Richard
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Just reversed into my fence - lost my rear view mirror a couple of months ago - it fell off due to the heat. Anyway wasn't paying attention and managed to damage the rear bumper, anyone breaking ?? anyone breaking a black one ???? (1997 Grand Voyager CD Stow & Go (Pearl Black) always live in hope ! Richard
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4Th Gen 08-Plate Central Locking?
RichardM replied to Ld22's question in Voyager 4th Generation (2001-2007)
One click of the fob should release the locks on the offside (driver's side) two clicks unlocks all doors and the 5th door as well. (Well this is what should happen - and it does with mine) but these vehicles are very prone to electronic glitches and unfortunately there is on official dealer network in the UK as far as I am aware. I have never used the key itself to unlock the car but perhaps a double unlock done quickly will release all doors ? BUT.. if the driver's door is unlocked with the key the alarm should be disabled automatically, perhaps the battery in the fob needs replacing ? -
Water/grey Smoke, Coolant Loss, Overheating
RichardM replied to xxAndrewVoyager's question in Voyager 4th Generation (2001-2007)
As far as I understand it there is no 3.3litre diesel. The 3.3. is a petrol engine so a very different beast. -
Some vehicles with {sophisticated / over engineered} computer systems complain when you change a lump of hot wire for an LED, interested to know if you get any faults generated. Also, on the topic of lights, should the light switches on the right of the dash be illuminated - mine aren't. If there is a bulb behind the housing any idea how to change it ?
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Water In Fuel (Dashboard Warning)
RichardM replied to RichardM's question in Voyager 4th Generation (2001-2007)
Ah, wonders of wonders, both problems have resolved themselves... must have been the puddle (lake), I drove through. No more warning lights. (The auxillary heater still comes on.. Any suggestions ???? -
Water In Fuel (Dashboard Warning)
RichardM replied to RichardM's question in Voyager 4th Generation (2001-2007)
That confirms what I thought .. won't say what I think of the manual (book that is, not gearboxes - though I'm no fan of those either.. probably one of the rare better ideas of our friends across the pond [Autos Forever, Rah,Rah,Rah) Nope, it ain't the auxillary heater, that always comes on even though we pulled the fuse when the in line filter was fitted, this is right next to the fuel warning light = in fact it lights up the fuel light even though it's 3/4 full.... NEVER NEVER run out of diesel when you've put an in line in as you lose the primer pump (it's part of the filter housing). Thanks for the confirmation. -
Confusion reigns (again). Last night I got a couple of warnings light up on the dash. First was a water in fuel warning (Little flame type display next to the low fuel warning)... I understood that the seperator / sensor was built into the fuel filter housing on the front of the engine which has not existed on my car for three months (it was replaced by an in line fuel filter from a BMW 3 litre due to poor starting). All the sensor and pre heat leads were left in place with no apparent detrimental effects and everything was tickety boo till last night. No apparent problems with starting or running but thought would check the manual (pdf 2005-RG-Diesel_SM) which indicates there is a fuel filter in front of the rear axle which contains the fuel / water seperator and sensor ???? true or not ? It's too blxxdy cold , wet and muddy to crawl under the car at present and I don't believe the manual .. too many othet errors in it. Second warning wa sthe ABS light glowing in the dark but believe this may be due to a sensor deing ripped off or disconnected when I went through a puddle (rather deeper than I thought) at around 50mph on the A52 .. as I mentioned it's been rather wet lately. Anyway are there two fuel filters on the 2007 Voyager? If not is the WIF sensor in the filter housing at the front of the engine ? (as below) Any help gratefully accepted, recieved. Richard
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Confusion reigns (again). Last night I got a couple of warnings light up on the dash. First was a water in fuel warning (Little flame type display next to the low fuel warning)... I understood that the seperator / sensor was built into the fuel filter housing on the front of the engine which has not existed on my car for three months (it was replaced by an in line fuel filter from a BMW 3 litre due to poor starting). All the sensor and pre heat leads were left in place with no apparent detrimental effects and everything was tickety boo till last night. No apparent problems with starting or running but thought would check the manual (pdf 2005-RG-Diesel_SM) which indicates there is a fuel filter in front of the rear axle which contains the fuel / water seperator and sensor ???? true or not ? It's too blxxdy cold , wet and muddy to crawl under the car at present and I don't believe the manual .. too many othet errors in it. Second warning wa sthe ABS light glowing in the dark but believe this may be due to a sensor deing ripped off or disconnected when I went through a puddle (rather deeper than I thought) at around 50mph on the A52 .. as I mentioned it's been rather wet lately. Anyway are there two fuel filters on the 2007 Voyager? If not is the WIF sensor in the filter housing at the front of the engine ? (as below) Any help gratefully accepted, recieved. Richard
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Whilst I love the space and comfort of my GV I totally sympathise and understand your decision. I have owned my GV around 13 months now and for nine of those I suffered from the dreaded won't start 'cause I don't feel like it syndrome. My local garage finally traced it to a faulty fuel filter housing which has been replaced with an in line BMW 3 litre fuel filter. Now starts every time regardless (am I tempting fate.. hope not) But back to the theme. Has anyone contemplated replacing the engine (and drive train) with something more robust i.e. older ? Ford Transit 1st edition FWD or something else (Americano with auto box ?). I cannot imagine it would be easy and would require an awful lot of ancillary work (cutting out half a ton of wiring and CPU's.. Fuel consumption may turn our to be lousy but reliability would surely increase along with peace of mind and the ability to get it running again with a screwdriver and hammer. I've also dug out my old vinyl and the sounds of Cat Stevens, Hawkwind and Pink Floyd now reverberate around the house (when my other half is out the house). Bye the bye, I did own a 'classic', a Jensen GT, restored it from rust then found I didn't fit in it...... My old Merc, W124 estate is sittoing doing nothing in the drive due to steel worm in the wings, must do something to it when the weather improves (also need to inject another dose of enthusiasm!) Good luck for the future. - Richard (still love the GV but know when the grmlins return no doubt the scrapyard will call.)
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If my calculations are correct thats around 19.5 mpg - ooh -thought mine was juicy 32.2 mpg (according to the car's readout.. in summer it was around 36 - all urban(ish) I live in the countryside so not a great deal of traffic jams. Trust you'll get many more stats.
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Sorry but just noted the link to ebay Lucas primer - is this what's fitted or does it require some mods for a 2007 CRD. On the issue of maintenance, is there a w/s manual for this specific engine. I downloaded a set for the Voyager and it is very sparse on diesels and mentions things that do not exist - like lift pumps etc. ? ? ?
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Starting getting worse, now thinking the actual primer pump may be the cause or curse.... Trouble is where do I get the bits to overhaul it or where do I get a new one from ? I love this old bus, it's the only thing I've found that's big enough for me BUT I'm getting frustrated with the whole starting issue.. HELP>
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On the subject of priming. Prime it by pumping the rubber 'bung' thing at the front of the engine - now use a walking stick from charity shop to stop ripping the skin off my hands. Give it ten pumps and it usually does the tric On the subject of Autel, I am still curious if this kit works with the 2.8 diesels diagnostics as I have not found any code reader that will read live diagnostics. ???
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Hiya, Does this device read engine diagnostics - fuel pressure, timing, etc.. I am still struggling with having to prime the blxxdy diesel line every couple of days otherwise it just turns over threatens sometimes to start Once running goes like buggery, no smoke just loads of acceleration. Had the injectors checked and the relief valve, all spot on. Can find no leaks on the fuel system. A previous owner fitted an in line fuel pump, don't know if it does more harm than good?
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again on the eBay scheme there are lots of people breaking Voyagers, may be worth contacting a few. Otherwise check out 1stchoice.uk - a network of breakers - have used before with pretty good results
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This may be totally irrelevant and pointing you in the wrong direction BUT.... My bus starts most mornings with little problem, on warm, hot days I can travel 2 miles or twenty and it's a toss of the coin whether it will behave or not (fuel starvation.. 10 seconds on the starter sometimes fires her up sometimes not. I have not solved this to my satisfaction but can always (so far) get her to fires by pumping the finger button on the fuel pump. There must be minor an air leak somewhere in the fuel system but buggered if I can find and perhaps the heat in the engine compartment exacerbates the problem t. Anyway, just try a couple of presses on the rubber 'thing' atop the fuel pump, if it cures the problem (only for that instance) then you're in the same boat I am. I now carry a 15" length of plastic conduit to assist with this process as I was always ripping the skin off my hand, wrist due to the clever way Chrysler have buried the pump at the lower front of the engine below the sharpened edge of the slam panel. Now it's a breeze - but still the #1 on my sh*t list.
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Paint Protection - Ptfe Coating
RichardM replied to RichardM's question in Voyager 4th Generation (2001-2007)
Update. Well after a couple of weeks it appears to be working, I haven't done much mileage wise (lockdown), but a trip to the shops (essential items, potatoes, peas, Brandy, Magnums etc), is a round trip of 36 miles and my wife eats a great number of Magnums so... Yup car looks greatly clean (baring the dust), seems well worth the effort. Treated the windows with the rain piss-off stuff that I bought around 12 years ago and filed away on the back shelf of my shed, again pretty good but suspect it may have aged a little, and unlike your Vin Rouge I don't think aging does it any good, may invest in a new bucket when the raps come off. -
Having a fair bit of time on my hands recently I decided to apply a PTFE coating to my dreaded Black Pearlescent Voyager. Black is beautiful if you clean it and leave it in your garage (my garage is too small for the bus). I HATE CLEANING CARS. So, having bought this sealant a few months ago, I finally opened the bottle and armed with a mass of microfibre cloths commenced this dreaded operation. So panel by panel applied the first coat (reactive agent ?), left it dry, buffed it off, applied the PTFE top coat stood back to admire the result (clean and shinny) and proceeded to the next panel. After completing half the vehicle, went indoors for a coffee and decided enough was enough for the day. A couple of days later (slow to recuperate) decided that it wasn't going to finish itself. In the meantime I went into town to get some essentials (as per HM govs rules) - I consider cream cakes part of my 5 a day, and noticed rain spots from the previous day still on the bonnet, so it's not magic but as the bottles were open and already paid for decided to carry on and complete the task. The last panel was the roof, and being 6'5" still needed to open the doors and stand with feet in the car to reach the centre of the roof. Please note that pigeons know exactly what you're doing and therefore shat all over the roof - despite Chris Packham's crusade I'd love a shotgun! Regarding those rain spots, they didn't wipe off with a dry rag so had to wash them off - not difficult but thought this would be a thing of the past. Anyway, will see how things go.
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Ah Grantham, just bordering on civilization I believe. 1 pub, and two more lamp posts than us, the one we have hasn't worked for two years. Spent the 80's out of the country (S.E. Asia), I do remember the seventies though, the early parts through a slight alcoholic haze, great music and a 1600E resprayed a violent VW green.
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That is very kind, hopefully don't have to take you up on the offer ! (I'm in the East Midlands by the way (Old Leake, Boston), take the A52 to the ens of the Earth, when you arrive carry on another 25 miles.
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