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Grand Voyager 2.8Crd Which Gearbox Will Fit?
newtothis replied to newtothis's question in Voyager 4th Generation (2001-2007)
Mounts are exactly the same :-) other than the one bolt hole they fit perfectly. -
Newbie Hello And Looking For Help On A Grand Voyager
newtothis replied to MikeHunt's question in Voyager 4th Generation (2001-2007)
I would definitely say injectors. This is very common on cars with a dpf filter as they over fuel to clean the dpf when it regenerates. If you have leaking injector it deposits more fuel than is needed and due to how thin diesel is this slips past the rings and into the sump. You would normally also notice a bit more smoke from the exhaust than normal aswell. You need to sort it asap as the oil will be thinned down with diesel and could result in not enough lubrication to your crankshaft which could end in your engine failing catastrophically. I would take it to a diesel specialist and get them to perform a leak off test, shouldn't be expensive maybe £45 or so. They should identify any faulty injectors. It could just be one at which point the fix is fairly cheap. I cannot think how atf fluid could mix with the oil as they are in no way linked together so would be impossible to happen. For that reason I wouldn't use the garage who told you that as it fetches into question there knowledge of cars. -
Grand Voyager 2.8Crd Which Gearbox Will Fit?
newtothis replied to newtothis's question in Voyager 4th Generation (2001-2007)
Got to say getting the gearbox out is a nightmare to do on your own like I did. Biggest tip I have is get the car as high as you can as the gearbox is bigger than you think. Neil, I'm in Doncaster. After driving for a couple of days I've noticed that the economy round town is a little down but really not much. And considering I saved a packet on the repair it will take ages before I'm out of pocket lol. The. Hugest thing that the professionals won't tell you is the internals are the same. parts are easily available these gearboxes from the American eBay and isn't that expensive. Jump on YouTube and there is a video showing how to strip and rebuild these gearboxes from start to finish. Anybody who can remove a gearbox should be able to rebuild one as they are so simple to strip as I was really intrigued to find out what had failed on mine. So to the gearbox specialists out there I will apologise in advance for the loss of income -
Grand Voyager 2.8Crd Which Gearbox Will Fit?
newtothis replied to newtothis's question in Voyager 4th Generation (2001-2007)
its amusing how all the breakers and gearbox specialists inflate the prices for a 2.8 as opposed to the 3.3 when they are the same. Its not a small job taking 2 out and putting one in but then when it save you as much as what I saved its worth the hassle. Well the car is in for its mot in an hour so if I need any more parts they will be free aswell prior to the scrapper being collected :-) Thanks Neil, your comment confirmed in my head to take the chance -
Grand Voyager 2.8Crd Which Gearbox Will Fit?
newtothis replied to newtothis's question in Voyager 4th Generation (2001-2007)
So just to confirm to everybody I have now repaired my vehicle using a gearbox from a 3.3 petrol voyager. I purchased a 52 plate with head gasket failure for £200.The car had done 68k with one owner and full service history. I drove the vehicle for 36 miles without fault and if im honest it was a shame to break the car as it drove perfectly. I figured for £200 I would have a go and see if it would work. Well the answer is yes all though there is 2 slight modifications you have to do. 1: On the 2.8 gearboxes you will find 2 bolt holes under the rear diff, the 3.3 only has one and its in the wrong place. Easy to sort just alloy weld and make second hole. (I suppose you could just ignore it because its only one bolt but I like things to be right) 2: the hoses at the front as Neil said are incorrect. Rather than using hose I simply unscrewed the fitting and replaced with the correct fitting from my 2.8 gearbox. Fits perfect. I did use the torque converter from my 2.8 but looking the 3.3 would fit no worries. I have driven the car around 50 miles and all is perfect. So how much has it cost for this gearbox repair: Scrap car £200 Gearbox oil and filter £36 total £236 But then guess what, as I have bought a full car I can now either break the full car which I haven't time to do or sell to scrap yard. I have chosen the later and they are collecting it and giving me £125. So this gearbox repair has cost me £111. I did look at the internals prior to fitting and can also confirm they are the same. hope this helps somebody else in the future as on my quest to find a gearbox everybody told me it couldn't be done and that a gearbox is £500. Well they were wrong -
Limp Mode - No Codes - All Gears Lit? Help Please
newtothis replied to Chryslerwise's question in Voyager 4th Generation (2001-2007)
try the gearbox earth, as there is no speedo and no codes your gearbox ecu is not talking to the car. Your gearbox specialist should know this as its common but instead is changing parts at your expense. If he cant connect to gearbox ecu then that's where to start. I would definitely say its just a wiring problem/ecu as found on multiple threads. Don't allow any further parts to be tried on the car until the ecu has been resolved. You will be throwing good money away. -
Grand Voyager 2.8Crd Which Gearbox Will Fit?
newtothis replied to newtothis's question in Voyager 4th Generation (2001-2007)
I'm just glad I was reading everything correctly. It's not that I was being tight but I like to know that I'm not paying more than I need to. -
Grand Voyager 2.8Crd Which Gearbox Will Fit?
newtothis replied to newtothis's question in Voyager 4th Generation (2001-2007)
Hi, so let me get this right, my research is correct even though everybody who sells gearboxes has said I'm incorrect. ?? It's nice to hear that somebody has actually tried and tested this as we all know the petrol gearboxes are far cheaper. I think I'm going to take the plunge and try. I don't mind the speedo being wrong as I usually just keep up with traffic. Thank you -
Grand Voyager 2.8Crd Which Gearbox Will Fit?
newtothis replied to newtothis's question in Voyager 4th Generation (2001-2007)
Yes, that makes sense, however in theory could I change the internals into my bell housing? I am pretty good with tools and can strip and rebuild engines all day. I can get 3.3 gearbox for £100 and a new set of friction plates for £46. So if my theory is possible then in reality it's only a cost of £146 plus oil ad filter. -
Grand Voyager 2.8Crd Which Gearbox Will Fit?
newtothis posted a question in Voyager 4th Generation (2001-2007)
HI There guys, so I have taken the plunge and purchased my first grand voyager. Its a 2005 2.8 crd and with 4th baby due any time I needed to get a 7 seater. Problem is the gearbox has broke. It is stuck in limp mode and after researching I have checked wiring, relay, earth straps etc... I then removed the sump to find metal filings so I definitely need a new gearbox. Now after researching a hell of a lot I have found that this car is fitted with an A604 (41te) gearbox. So as im on a budget I jumped on fleabay to try to find a gearbox but they want around £500 for a second hand one that could break in 3 months but as mentioned 4th baby due I cant afford 2k for a rebuild. So heres my question...... The a604 (41te) gearbox is fitted on a range of vehicles, from what I can see all the internals are the same part numbers so could I take a gearbox from a petrol say 3.3 and fit it to my 2.8crd. Naturally I would use my ecu, but I cannot find a direct answer to this question but as I say a lot of research is telling me this may be possible. Any help or info is greatly appreciated :-)