Berkswolf

I don't think the water pump is driven by the cam belt? I had my cambelt done recently and asked the mobile mechanic who did the job to check condition for me and advise accordingly. He said mine was fine and didn't need doing so i didn't have it done. Conventional wisdom usually advises that when you do the cambelt do the water pump but I had enough confidence in my mechanic to go with his recommendation

Maybe one of the car breaker websites such as https://www.247spares.co.uk/?gclid=CKvd_Yugu80CFUWNGwodluwH1w

Well a week in and all is good. Starts first time every time, runs smoothly at all revs and it all feels a little zippier. If zippy is an expression that can be used in a vehicle of this size. Not certain yet as I haven't done a calculated check yet and don't really trust the fuel computer, but I am fairly sure that fuel consumption is better too. All in all I am very happy.

Ok, got the car back today and so far, so good. Only had to do three starts so far so not a real try but up to now its been perfect, It will be more of a test in the morning after standing all night, but the symptoms I had were there whether the engine was warm or cold. Gordy, I think the reason the valve doesn't show on the schematic is because Chrysler dont supply the valve on its own, you have to buy the complete rail from them. The garage didn't do the refurb on the rail themselves as it apparently needs to be tested at a ridiculously high presure and they don't have the equipment capable of doing it so they send it out to a third party that does. The valve, which is made by Bosch can be found for sale on ebay, but as all things ebay they may, or may not be actual Bosch valves. The engineer told me he has done dozens of these and according to him its quite common for them to fail. Not only on Grand Voyagers but other vehicles that use the same engine. A new rail from Chrysler costs around £1500 plus VAT. The cost of therail refurb, including new valve and pressure testing was £350. The garage charged for just one hour labour costs plus £22 for a new fuel filter as obviously you wouldn't want to put back an old one. I had to pay for the fuel filter as my warrenty doesn't cover service parts, the warrenty company paid the rest of the costs minus the original diagnostic as again its not covered by the agreement. I will post again in a few days and again in a few weeks to report if all is well, or not. But as I said, so far so good.

Hi Andyb2000. I had the checks done at my local diesel specialists, I would guess you need specialist equipment to do it. The leak back test showed the injectors as ok. The fuel rail test showed the relief valve had failed. I don't think Chrysler sell the valve seperately, they want you to get a new fuel rail at around £1500! I think you can buy the valve direct from Bosch or on ebay. What is involved in replacing it is out of my knowledge range but I am sure someone like Quinteq or Gordy will know. They both seem very knowledgeable. My car goes in today and should be returned tomorrow. I will post later how things went.

No problems on hard acceleration, not that I do it very much

Not certain what you mean by powering. Once it has started it runs fine. No cut outs whilst driving, stopping, accelerating etc. Warrenty company has now given the go ahead for the work to be done so I will be putting it in on Monday or Tuesday for the work to be done.

Not quite Gordy. It has great difficulty starting. This can be alleviated by turning off the ignition, waiting about 15 seconds and then trying again. Sometimes it then runs at first try, sometimes I have to do the 15 seconds trick a second or third time. Still waiting fo the warrenty people to give the go ahead so no work been done yet beyond the pressure and diagnostic check. The garage I used then deduct the cost of the diagnostic checks if they then carry out the work.

Right lines gordy. The pressure test revealed a leak in a valve on the rail. Waiting to hear if my warrenty covers the work. I think it does.

Ooops I meant 56 of course

Hi guys. I have been trying to join for some while but the validation email wasn't getting sent. Finaly arrived today so i can post at last. I have a 65 plate grand voyager 2.8 CRDe Limited. I have had it for about thre weeks now and it has a very strange starting issue. Whether warm start or cold start it will seldom just start. It seems to fire but cuts out immediately. Turn off the ignition, wait about 15 seconds, turn it on and off it goes good as gold. Once started it runs beautifuly. I suspect some sort of air leak or fuel drain back and have now arranged to take to my local deisel specialists for diagnostics. I will post again when I have their report but in the meantime any input or suggestions will be very welcome.